This Is A Post About Wincest


Come on, who doesn’t want to marry their little sister?

Just joking… I think.

(Warning: This is a long post, which is mostly a narrative.)

I have been thinking a lot about incest these days – like where’s the fine line between fetishising and acceptance? Do people even want to see such a taboo subject played with utter seriousness? Is an incest comedy even possible to pull off without cheapening the issue? Stilts on Random Curiosity wrote an interesting post about the subject lately and brought up some interesting points.

Personally, I’m extremely ambivalent about the portrayal of incest in anime. Most of the time, it just isn’t well done – in LN adaptations, I mean. In fact, my deep frustration with light novels has led me to attempt writing one myself to see if I can do better.

I might have mentioned in an earlier post that I was attempting NaNoWriMo this year, and that the novel in question would be an imouto incest story (although different from what I outlined in that post). Ultimately, this NaNoWriMo novel of mine is the fruit of my musings.

So I’ve decided to post up what I wrote for today on my blog so you can observe and laugh at my feeble efforts at juxtaposing otaku humour with literary substance. As I discovered, it is not a freaking easy thing to do. That’s exactly what makes attempting it so fun, though.

. . .



You know that awkward moment when you have a wet dream about your older brother?

… You don’t?


Chapter One

I woke up from my nightmare in a cold sweat.

For a moment, I scrambled in the darkness, feeling lost. I was breathing heavily and my throat was hoarse. My pillow was damp with drool.

I heard footsteps outside the door of my room.

“Hey, Miharu, are you okay?”

It was my brother.

I was groggy, not really understanding anything, but as soon as I heard his voice, something clicked in my brain. “Don’t come in!” I yelled at him.

“Huh? Why not?”

“Just don’t!”

I didn’t want him to see my face.

“Did you have a nightmare?” he asked, sounding puzzled.

Honestly? It was the most frightening thing I had ever seen. I cannot unsee this horrible vision.

As it turns out, my brother is the kind of guy who looks great in a naked apron. Until that dream, I would never have considered the thought. But now I know. Now I know all too well.

It’s weird, because I wouldn’t go out of my way to call him good-looking, so the thought would have surprised me even if he wasn’t my brother. In fact, he’s just so plain and ordinary – average height, black hair, brown eyes.

I said to him, “Get lost.”

And he said, “Have you become a woman? Is this your time of the mo-?”

I opened the door and threw my alarm clock at his head.

It broke.

I don’t like my older brother.

This has nothing to do with him as a person. I suppose he’s alright in that department. He’s never bullied me or pulled my hair or anything like that. Some of my friends at school have really crappy brothers and I have to admit I’m kind of grateful that mine’s relatively nice.

The problem is that I don’t like having fantasies about his crotch.

That’s what it comes down to, really.

No matter how you think about it, that kind of thing isn’t normal, is it? I’m like a mutant! Something’s gone wrong with my internal makeup!

It’s not like I’m even that close to my brother, you see. Even if he is nice, we don’t have a lot in common to talk about because he’s boring. I only ever really see him at breakfast and dinner. He’s a high school student so he hangs out with his friends a lot and I only just started junior high last month.

I don’t really know, but having fantasies about one’s brother might be normal for a girl just entering junior high. Maybe… maybe it’s a rite of passage for all little sisters!

At least, that’s what I tell myself, but when I looked it up on the Internet, it only happens in anime.

I’m pretty screwed.

And you know what – it got even worse after the day of my nightmare.

This one time, I walked into the bathroom and saw my brother only wearing a towel and wow I didn’t even know he had abs. He’s such a skinny guy.

“Pervert!” I fumed.

“W-What did I do?” he asked meekly.

“You suck because you exist,” I said.

“I’m sorry for existing,” he said, and he looked like he meant it.

Teehee, my brother is so cute.


“J-Just put on a shirt already,” I told him, looking away.

This isn’t something I can talk about to anyone. That’s why I’m writing it all down. I can’t look my brother in the face anymore and I’m scared.

I don’t know what it all means. But I know it’s not good.

I hope it’s a phase and I’ll get over it but right now the only person I can think about is my brother.

I wish I knew more about him. Maybe that way I can explain my inexplicable attraction to a dull blob of a person who is actually kind of good-looking when you squint.

Let’s see… what do I already know about him?

Well, I know that he spends most of his time with his best friend – Naoki was his name, I think? In my opinion, Naoki is a loser and a pervert. Not sure why my brother hangs around him. Still, Naoki probably knows my brother better than I do.

But it wasn’t like I could go up to some guy and ask him questions about my brother. That would be awkward.

So instead, I decided to follow my brother and his friend around for a day.

Again, I should stress I’m not doing this because I like my brother or anything. That’s stupid. I’m doing it because I… well… because.

Because I am researching for the sake of curing my disease!

I slipped on a pair of shades and tailed the two boys as they walked around on the main district. My brother had his hands in his pockets, nodding his head to what his friend was saying. I adjusted my shades and crept in closer, so that I could hear their conversation.

“… Man, I do not get the appeal of school swimswuits at all!”

“Huh? What’s wrong with them?”

“They’re so plain! Aren’t bikinis so much better because you can actually see some cleavage?”

Boys have such stupid conversations.

Maybe it’s a high school thing. Back when I was in elementary school, the boys didn’t talk such nonsense. They talked about games and sports, stuff I could understand because I could beat them at it. As a result, boys don’t like me. They say I’m bossy and that I’m a tomboy. That’s okay, because I don’t like them, either, only my big brother.

That’s enough of that, though.

“… By the way,” my brother’s friend was saying, “do you have any idea why your sister is following us?”

Holy crap, the guy is sharp!

I hid behind a trash can before my brother could look around and find me. “Huh, where?” asked my brother.

“Guess I imagined it,” said Naoki with a laugh.

Shrugging, the two boys kept on walking down the road and I breathed a sigh of relief. My heart was beating frantically. I never want my brother to find out about my disease that was so strong that it would make me follow him around for no reason at all.

After that, I just went home and dug up the family photo albums so I could look at pictures of my brother.

Even as I did that, I felt sick with myself.

The thing about having dirty thoughts is that it taints you. Even if no one can see anything different about you, the world changes forever, like it’s gone through a filter.

It’s maddening.

As I stared at the photos of us as children, I wondered if I would ever love my brother anymore the way I did back then. We were just normal siblings, so I couldn’t remember clearly how we acted – it wasn’t something you put a lot of thought into. Instead, I stared at my brother’s lips.

A sudden impulse came over me. I don’t know what I was thinking. But I brought the photo of him to my lips and I felt as if this was the closest we were ever going to get.

When finally, I looked up and opened my eyes, I was no longer alone.

My brother’s friend was standing at the doorway, his mouth agape.

I swore I could hear cicadas.

In the space of that awkward silence, which felt as if it lasted for centuries, his eyes twitched as they went from my face to the saliva-covered photo in my hand. Personally, I was seeing the world in a hot, red haze and for a moment, I was paralysed.

He opened his mouth.

“Nice weather, huh?”

I aimed straight for his jugular.


“You shall be silenced,” I said, with killing intent.

“T-This could go on your juvenile record!”

“Are you threatening me?”

“I only want the best for your education, Miharu-chan!” Naoki babbled.

“Who are you, my father?!”

“Just a concerned citizen.”


He had a point. I couldn’t exactly kill him. But now I had no idea what to do because he knew my embarrassing secret.

“Please don’t look at me,” I said, burying my face in my hands.

“Awww, it’s okay,” he said soothingly. “Just put it all behind you.”

“I can’t do that! I mean, I – and my brother! You saw! I mean, blargh!”

“Blargh indeed,” he said dryly.

“Shut up, you mongoloid!”

“Hey, I thought you wanted comfort! Why are you telling me to shut up?”

“Because… shut up!”

“Oh, little sisters!” he exclaimed with a shrug, falling down on the couch. “Man, I wish I had a little sister.”

“You’re making fun of me, aren’t you, you perverted asshat!”

He snickered. “What a foul mouth you have for a twelve-year-old.”

I glared witheringly at him. “Yeah, so what?”

And then – unexpectedly – he smiled, and not in the teasing way.

He smiled with fondness.

“There now, you’re not so embarrassed anymore, right?”

He patted me on the head, so I kicked him in the nuts.

“P-Please tell my mother that I love her,” Naoki croaked.

Oh wow, he really did look like he was about to drop dead.

Suddenly, I felt bad for hitting him. He had gone about it in a completely stupid way, but he wasn’t cursing me, and I actually think he was trying to cheer me up. Uh oh.

I sat down next to him where he was writhing on the floor and I said in a low voice: “Sorry.”

“Don’t do that again,” he said weakly.

“Are you sure you won’t tell anyone?” I asked anxiously.

“Yep,” he said. He still looked white in the face from the pain I had subjected him to. “Let us never speak of this again.”

“Okay,” I said solemnly.

I stood up, went to the kitchen and got him a glass of water. He looked like he needed it, honestly. And to my surprise, after he had downed the drink, we really didn’t speak of what he had seen me doing.

And that was the end of that.

Actually, that wasn’t true at all. Far from it. Naoki didn’t say a word to anyone, but my secret was no longer my own, and knowing that meant it was no longer a secret.

I never saw my brother’s friend for a while after that and that made me feel relieved. Even if he was nice about it, I didn’t want to see anyone who reminded me of my own shameful pervertedness. Even if no one else knew, I knew.

So even though nothing changed in the surface and my relationship with my brother was the same as ever, I still felt sick in my stomach whenever I looked at him. He might not have changed but I had.

“Hey, Miharu,” my brother said to me one day at dinner, not long after that incident. “Is it just me or have you been acting strange lately?”

“W-W-What I have no idea what on earth you are talking hahaha you idiot loser pervert you,” I said coherently.

Crap, I was thinking. Has he found me out?

I glared at my brother through the corner of my eyes. But my brother was completely cheerful and oblivious. He was never the sharpest tool in the shed, for which I am grateful.

I breathed a sigh of relief.

Then my brother said, “I know what your problem is! I bet you have a crush on a boy at school!”

I snorted out the water I was drinking.

“What led you to such a dodgy conclusion?!”

“Don’t worry, I’ll support you,” my brother said happily.

“D-Don’t you care about what kind of boyfriend I get?” I asked shakily. “Doesn’t he need to go through you first or something?”

“Now why would he need to do that? It’s your choice, isn’t it?”

I couldn’t even begin to tell him what was wrong with his opinions.

This is the bad thing about having a nice, pushover brother. He’s not a siscon so he doesn’t care about protecting you. What a dweeb, letting his sister think for herself.

No, seriously, I can’t get over it. What do I even see in this waste-of-oxygen-soulless-shell-of-a-human-being? Now I understand what the romance novels say about love making no sense. I’m twelve, so while I’m allowed to think that’s romantic, I am now starting to realise that not making sense is a bloody stupid thing to do and not helpful at all to anyone involved.

Okay, I’m being unfair.

The truth is, I’m just frustrated with myself. It’s not him who’s the bad brother – I’m the bad sister.

I shouldn’t be having a crush on my own brother.

I looked down moodily at my dinner, no longer feeling hungry.


“Don’t talk to me,” I said. “I, big brother, I – the truth is…”

I couldn’t continue. Our father worked late, so we never saw him at dinnertime, so it was just me alone with my brother. But even so, I just couldn’t be open with him.

“Miharu…” My brother looked at me sympathetically.

I swallowed. I had to say it to him. I couldn’t live with myself anymore otherwise.

“Big brother, the way I feel about you… I have to be honest. I’m in lo-”

“If you weren’t hungry, you should’ve just said so,” my brother said as he helped himself to the meat on my plate.

I almost hit him, but restrained myself in time.

I knew I shouldn’t be taking out my anger by hurting other people. Not after last time.

But what could I do? The frustration boiled within me. I just wanted to talk to someone about… you know… my feelings and stuff. But there was no one. I couldn’t even talk to my own brother. There was only one person besides me who knew, who wouldn’t judge.

Knowing that, I was desperately lonely.

“I’m going out,” I declared, standing up.

“What? Right now?” said my brother, looking confused.

I didn’t answer him and simply walked out the door and into the moonlit suburban neighbourhood.

With no one around, I no longer felt lonely. But I knew this feeling could not last forever. I walked to the nearby park and got on the swing, pushing myself slowly. I felt cold and I stared at the moon, wondering what I would do now.

I wanted to hurt my brother. I really wanted to hurt him.

Maybe then he would care about me.

I wanted him to care.

I think I had been out for fifteen minutes when I noticed someone walking a dog down the sidewalk. I’d hoped it would be my brother, coming out to look for me.

But it was just Naoki.

“Yo, what are you doing here?” he asked, as he pulled on the leash. His dog, a Jack Russell, was trying to sniff my feet with keen curiosity.

“What are you doing here?” I asked him back without much enthusiasm.

“I bet your brother’s worried about you,” he said.

“Don’t talk to me about him,” I said, looking away. “He doesn’t even care about me and I don’t care about him.”

The dog had stopped trying to sniff me. Naoki let go of his leash and sat down on the swing next to me.

“… You really didn’t tell anyone about that, did you?” I asked, growing suspicious of his silence.

“Oh, what, nah,” he said. “I was just thinking.”

“About what?”

“About how you shouldn’t be out at this hour.”

I opened my mouth and then closed it.

I didn’t know what gave him any right to lecture me, but I didn’t want to argue with him.

It was cold, but inexplicably, I felt warmer than I did a minute before.

I felt protected.

“Okay,” I mumbled, standing up.

He walked me back to the front door of my house, even though it was only a five minute walk. I could only look down at my feet.

We didn’t exchange a word until we got to the entrance.

“Well, see you later, little sis,” he said and he started to walk away, raising one hand behind him in farewell.

“W-Wait!” I exclaimed, even though I had no idea what to say.


“Er…” I gulped a mouthful of the cool nighttime breeze. “Thanks… I guess.”

He stopped in his tracks.

“W-What?” I demanded.

Abruptly, he swung back around to face me with a boyish grin on his face. “There’s something about you that reminds me of my dog.”

“H-Hey! What’s that supposed to mean, you lump of crap?!”

“See! You’re even yapping like a dog! You’ll upset the neighbours!” He laughed. “Well, later!”

And then, before I could muster a retort, he really was gone.

In spite of that minor irritant, I felt a lot better. I was no longer mad at my brother or at anyone, really. But that sense of ease did not last long.

When I walked inside, my brother was waiting for me, his arms crossed while he sat on the sofa.

I sighed when I saw him because it was then that I understood what my encounter with Naoki really meant. He knew more about me and my brother than he let on. All of us did. But none of us could say anything about the elephant in the room.

“You sent your friend out to get me instead of coming after me yourself,” I said accusingly.

I didn’t know whether that meant my brother cared about me or… or if he just didn’t care enough. Even though I had gone back inside, the warmth fizzled out of me and I felt alone once again.

“What are you saying?” he said, smiling sheepishly. “I just don’t get you lately, Miharu.”

Well, you know what? I didn’t get him either.

We were siblings, but the atmosphere around us had become unbearable.

“Whatever, I’m going to bed,” I said sourly.

“…Okay,” he said heavily, not making a move.

We said nothing more to each other that night. We avoided eye contact, even.

And that was how our evening ended.


I won’t be posting any more of the story on my blog since that would be way too much to read. You are free to bash my otaku-pandering incest light novel if you like or offer constructive criticism.

Alternatively, if you liked it, let me know and I’ll send you a copy when the month is over.

Whatever you think, I am actually determined to get this whole story done. Wish me luck. If I don’t update this blog at all this November… well, you know what I’m doing.



  1. Hey, that was surprisingly not bad. I guess the change in perspective makes for a fresh take in the story after all. Send me a copy when you’re done

    I’m wanting to start writing something of my own now, but I don’t even have an idea of a genre, and… blargh. Reasons. Reasons pertaining to laziness.

  2. That was pretty well-written. I’d appreciate getting sent a copy if it’s not too much trouble. Too bad you can’t submit it somewhere in Japan for this to be made into an anime. ;)

    • Sure, I’ll send you a copy when I’m done.

      I wouldn’t want my story to be made into an anime, though. All the elitist bloggers would make fun of it! I read their blogs, so I would know!

  3. At first I wasn’t too excited about this—it sounded too much like the script of an anime to me. The clichés irritated me. But I knew that was the point, so I kept reading, because even though typically otaku-pandering stuff pisses me off, you’re the only blogger I really like and I figured I could end up enjoying this as much as I do your regular posts.
    And I did. I kept my mind away from the clichés and the stereotypes to focus on the good stuff until I found the soul of the story. Until I found you. It was worth it… I’m happy to admit I really want to read the rest of this light novel, especially considering I usually hate light novels in general. I guess as long as there’s drama and it’s well-handled, my sadomasochistic heart can take it in whatever shape it comes. ♥
    TL;DR just send me the novel when you’re done kthnxbye

    • That’s really valuable feedback because it gets right to the heart of the big dilemma with light novels: there’s a certain writing style we associate with light novels, and if you don’t attempt to write within that style, then you wouldn’t call it a light novel. But are those very stylistic features the explanation for why light novels are so bad? Can, in fact, a story play along with the cliches and still have a soul (as you put it)?

      This was a rough opening by all accounts, but I would like to keep putting my soul into the story.

      Thank you for the encouragement! I will definitely send you a copy upon completion.

      • Oh, there’s plenty of different writing styles within the realm of light novels. Technically all writers have their individual styles, but even more generally speaking there’s a wide variety of genres covered by the medium. The type of story you’re working with here is the sort that people tend to think of when light novels are brought up, and so far I think you’re capturing the sort of tone that’s typical of such stories (what with the style used for your characters’ dialogue, the way they react to situations [e.g. with brief, exaggerated violence], and so on).

        Good luck writing the rest of your book, Frog-kun; I’ll give it a look once you’re finished. I do like that you’re working from the imouto’s perspective, but am curious to see how well you can manage to capture a 12-year-old girl’s POV.
        Random aside: Oddly enough, Naoki is the name of the main character in the book I’m writing. =P

        • You’re completely right, of course, but I felt particularly interested in the “typical” light novel, so that’s the style I really wanted to try. It’s definitely not my normal style, so trying to capture it has been fun. Thanks for the encouragement and everything! I will send you a copy upon completion :)

          (P.S. It would be doubly ironic if your Naoki was like mine, but I somehow doubt he is, haha.)

    • I have to agree with this comment. Overall it’s pretty good (has expected : when it comes to the writing itself youre pretty much my favorite animu blogger) but it seems to rely a lot on clichés and gave me a sense of déja-vu.

      Not much into the whole incest theme though. Surely because I have a little sister. Though I don’t mind it much because I don’t really project myself into stories. I just think of incest characters has people who had/have a troubled life (though this part of the issue isn’t shown in anime about the subject).

      • Seems to have mixed up the email with the username ahah. Oh well its a fake e-mail but if you can correct that it be great.

      • Your email is fake? Why was I never made aware of this? YOUR EXISTENCE IS A LIE

        In any case, heh heh, thanks for the feedback. Not much else to say other than you are completely right :’)

  4. Actually I’d like to read. If only for the lolz, I could never get incest really. But since you’re a decent FF writer and I did enjoy your Suguha centric fic, I’d give it a shot. Do send me a copy.

  5. I would love a copy myself, seems fun :p

    Do you have any plans to get some illustrations for your novel? Think you can commission some in DA if you want.

  6. Hell yeah, I like this story, it’s awesome. It’s everything a siscon light novel should be about. The thing about most little sister romance stories is that they always tell the point of view from the pathetic loser of a brother, so it’s a nice refreshing chance to see the point of view change to that of the little sister for once. Nice job, and it was excellent.

    And yeah, I could see what you did there with the older brother being the typical plain, boring and pathetic herbivore guy. I have to salute you for that.

    Looking forward to your next update! And yes, please continue posting on your blog. It would be great to continue reading your masterpiece here.

  7. Showing the sister’s perspective is an interesting take on this light novel sub-genre. She described her brother as “average,” but what does Naoki herself look like? Possibly description isn’t a strong point of LNs since they tend to have cover art and illustrations of the main characters. Also, sometimes the dialog is hard to attribute; in the conversation about swimsuits, which likes were Naoki and which were the anonymous brother’s? Overall it left me wanting to read the next chapter; if you’re not putting the final version online, can you email me a copy?

    • Well, thank you for the feedback! While I attempted to capture the light novel’s extremely sparse style in writing this, I see there were parts where a bit more clarification would have been a good idea, which is something I’ll take into account when I edit the story. I’ll be sure to send you a copy when all is said and done :)

  8. […] The author of this blog is one frog know only as Frog, though most people address him as Frog-kun, Froggy-kun, and occasionally, Señor Frog. Even in his more analysis-focused, editorial-type posts, he maintains a friendly, informal tone that is a smooth to read and very welcoming towards discussion. Meanwhile, he also sparingly does episodic reviews, choosing one series each season (currently, the second season of Infinite Stratos). Before he picked up blogging, he was also a prolific fanfiction writer. Frog-kun is currently one of the most active non-episodic anime bloggers that I am following, often posting every two to three days. He hasn’t missed a week since May until last week, though apparently he is currently busy working on his light novel! […]

  9. That prologue is the best prologue in the history of prologues. I’m not even talking about the content, just the way its written; it sets the tone for the story as a whole without going overboard on the details.

    Oh, and the story itself is decent too. It makes me want to read more, although it already feels like a train is going to smash into my head-space…

    Anyway, would blog this, please send when completed.

  10. I would really like to read the rest. It’s caught my attention due to that most light novels I’ve read are from the point of view of the guy. I’m interested in seeing more from the point of view of the sister. Please send it my way when you have the time!

  11. I know this is an old post and you may not see this but if you somehow do, I would really like a copy of your work Frog-kun. :)

  12. Well, this is awkward, year and a few months late. Huh, I start off a lot of things that way.
    Anyhow, I’m very curious as to how much more pain Naoki goes through over the course of the story, so if you feel like doing so, could you send me a copy? Or technically, THE copy, but you retain THE copy, so my copy of THE copy just becomes a copy of THE copy. I should shut up now, shouldn’t I. I also probably shouldn’t use two different definitions of the same word in a sentence. Oh well.

  13. Hey there this is my first time commenting and I know I’m a little late (obvious sarcasm is obvious) but at any rate i really liked your writing and would love it if you could send me a copy of it at your earliest convenience.
    Thank you

  14. Just like the others who showed up a few years late, I’d love to read the rest of your novel as well. If you’re still giving them out, I would love a copy~

  15. This is eons past and no doubt you’ve moved on and gotten together with your brother’s friend (heh… cuz of course this was actually non-fiction, right? lol… just kidding).

    One thing – I find it odd, and seriously so – that some people compliment you for going with the “bland, boring, not-really-good-looking brother”… for one thing, that’s hardly unique – in fact, overall – that is by far the norm for light-novels and visual-novels of this ilk. I know there are always people who complain about strong protagonists (well — in this case, the imouto is the protag I guess – but you know what I mean) — yet they are, overall, the rarity from my experience with a couple hundred more well-known titles from the last decade or so. They say it’s to do with the average male Japanese teen – who suffers from low self-esteem and who therefore identifies with those bland, boring, kinda “yucky” protags… that’s just sad. Even if that is true – aren’t these things supposed to be – well – fantasy, to a degree? Who the hell wants to fantasize about, or take the “role” of … a pathetic loser? Well – in any event, I find that it detracts from your otherwise quite-excellent writing. See – how believable is it that a competent, somewhat attractive and popular girl is going to have any sort of “crush” on someone that she thinks is boring, bland and not even attractive? I think – I’d say it’s almost impossible, in fact. See – the term “crush” implies several things – the first of these is _attraction_ — I’m not a newcomer to the genre, neither am I a newcomer to writing – and certainly not to life. If we feel “unreasoning attraction” — i.e. infatuation, etc.. then by definition we see the object of these desires as attractive, and we certainly don’t think of them as boring (even being attracted to someone, _anyone_ – is totally exciting, and really – never boring. You know this is true. I mean – I suppose if one is extremely messed-up, they may desire someone who is … not classically or “traditionally” (in their mind) desirable – but I’d hesitate to call such desires born of attraction, certainly not of any kind of love or affectionate sentiments. Anyway – I’d much rather buy in to the girl’s brocon vibe, based on some level of reasonably decent traits being ascribed to her onii-chan… heh.. Good writing – I hope you kept at it, regardless of your characterization choices. Cheers :-)

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